Get rid of the "Uploads" button

[yeppie]

e-w, I got your point but if anybody ruins this great site, it´s me.

The discussion was open for three weeks before I removed the uploads link and there wasn´t a single vote against but four pro messages. So I hope, the changes aren´t that worse for anybody interested in sexsounds. And the discussion still is open of course.

[JohnGypsy]

What "ruins" this site is everyone taking the content and never commenting on it to encourage more to be added.

You've been here for like 2 years, echo_walls -- in that time, you have commented on an upload ONLY ONCE -- and even THAT comment was you complaining that it was 22 minutes of crap music.

THAT is what "ruins" this site. This change was to try to get people to comment more and therefore encourage the uploading of even MORE content. It was meant to make people like you -- that NEVER leave a positive comment -- have to take a bit more time to get to the sounds so that you can read about them and hopefully comment on them.

If ALL you want is a big list of files to download, then just pay to join the archive and be done with it.

But don't come here and blame those trying to HELP the site for allegedly "ruining" it. YOU'RE the one doing the ruining of the site based on your actions on it over the past 2 years.

[jojo33]

Well said JohnGypsy!!!

[lifeonmars73d]

I agree totally.
I enjoy reading the comments as well as listening.

[spock]

Well, having to go through a bunch of post to see when new material has been posted is... an annoyance. I am glad you all think it's a great improvement. Kind of reminds me of the first class I took in Win 4.0 (1997). They give you this whole huge wonderful operating system, then spend three days teaching you how to take all the rights away from everyone who uses it.

Good luck, I'll be around, just not very often.

Nice way to ruin a great site spock. Next time, keep your ideas to yourself please.

e_w

wells said JohnGypsy

As for you, echo_walls...
You are exactly the person I was hoping to draw out of the cave. You have been a member for nearly 2 years, but you have only posted 3 times (before this debate). I wonder how many hundreds up of DL's you have completed in that time. I bet it is more than 3. So now you have to work a little. Would it kill you to comment once in a while? If you do leave, I am sure we will really miss your 1 post per year.

[yeppie]

Calm down, Boys. This discussion is worth it, don´t you think?

[spock]

Calm down, Boys. This discussion is worth it, don´t you think?

No worries, Yeppie. Lively debate is always good (even if it is one-sided)

[Gnosticelf]

I'm pretty new here (haven't even written an introductory post yet--d'oh!), so I don't think I ever even saw the "Uploads" button before it was removed. But I have absolutely no issues with the current site format, for whatever that might be worth.

One question, though: you mention removing the Uploads button as a way to hopefully prompt people to contribute more comments and discussion in the forums, but I was under the impression that the only way one gains the coveted title of "active member" (and thus having access to the archives, among other warm fuzzies ) is through being a frequent contributor of comments and participating in the forum's discussions even if you don't have much or any content to upload yourself. That sounds like a perfectly reasonable way to go about things, and I'm totally on-board with it, but if the aim of the format-change is to keep lurkers away who might only be interested in downloading from the archives...how would such folks have been able to gain access to the archives in the first place if they were only lurking?

Had you been granting access on the old site through a different system/standard-of-qualification than the way you're doing things on THIS site?

(Okay, okay, so that's actually two questions, but hey. Details!)

[yeppie]

Welcome Gnosticelf!
The uploads-button led to a listing of all attachments in this forum, not to the archived files. So the active-member-policy hasn´t changed at all ... it has been and still is exactly as you outlined.
Short answer that hopefully met both questions?

[Gnosticelf]

Sure does, thank you kindly!

I had already figured the Uploads button didn't include content within the archives, I suppose I was just going on the assumption that anyone who visits this site regularly would want access to the archives eventually, since there's so much past content only available through said archives, and I presume it's still updated frequently. And if the only way to gain access is through being a frequent contributor on the forums, I can't imagine why anyone would willingly pass that up.

[yeppie]

Now I see your point. Yes, everybody should want to access the archives, that would be very welcome on my site
But as access is a give-take thing, the give-part of the deal isn´t as welcome as the take part by the majority.

Archives are updated 3 or 4 times a month, 29gb and growing.