El Ciego wrote:No, once you've lifted the tent flap, you've invaded domicile.
I beg to differ m'lud. Domicile in legal terms is a permanent residence. A tent on a campsite is almost certainly not. But, I take your point and I guess it depends on the laws applicable at the place in question.
On the wider issue of breaking indecency legislation I think there is a big difference between making a sound recording and other popular forms of voyeurism such as using camera phones to take upskirt pictures (where the intent is obvious), because planting a microphone is always speculative from our point of view, which makes it very difficult to prove intent. You might, for example, be researching campsite snoring and have accidentally miked up the wrong tent; how could you possibly have known that the occupants were going to have noisy sex that night (thus turning an 'innocent' recording into an 'indecent' one)?
El Ciego wrote:My arousal was in-tents.
OK I think I'm getting the flavour of this site now
Camping can be very interesting. I've had situations like that. We used to go with large groups: family, friends, people from work, etc. A buddy of one of my friends would go to sleep in the tent with her current boyfriend. There we are, a group of us sitting around the campfire with this going on in a tent so close I could literally reach out and touch it. It was hard to keep the conversation going, I was too distracted. Her friend would try to keep the conversations going to mask the sounds, while us guys would be listening.
Camping with the wife, I've always wondered if we were being quiet enough when having sex in our tent.
When he's invited on these trips, one of my buddies has a habit of making rude comments when he hears people going at it, which--unfortunately--quiets things down.
Here's my suggestions on camping trip listening fun:
Pick your campground and campsite carefully. Find campgrounds that are quiet from a road noise standpoint. Some campgrounds are near freeways or have other noise. My most favorite campgrounds are near freeways, but some of the loops are far enough back and have enough trees to be quiet from a road noise standpoint. The wives love the campsites near the trail to the bathroom. Avoid those like the plague. People walking on the gravel and talking all night will spoil your listening fun.
Tents are more noisy than trailers, so you'll hear more if the potential "targets' are in a tent. If you have to trailer, go to a campground where the sites are mixed. Stay at the more improved campgrounds that enforce quiet time. Pick a location that's far as possible from the bathroom. Gives you a good reason to stroll around frequently.
There are two ways of listening: quiet time in your own campground and walking around. Which works best depends on what your neighbors are up to. In both cases, the most success you'll have is late at night.
Look around and see the makeup of different campgrounds. Twentysomethings tend to go in "couple" groups. If you see three tents and two guys sitting aound the campfire, the probability is that 2 guys aren't getting any and the girlfriend of the 3rd guy is trying to be quiet because she can hear the other two guys just outside the tent. You can just about forget families in a single tent. Thirtysomethings are usually familys or family groups. Families that like multiple tents are usually mom and pops that want a little extra privacy. If there campground is totally dark and quiet early, that's a good sign. Mom & Pop decided to go to bed early together and probably not to watch tv. If mom and pop stay up late around the campfire after the kids have gone to bed, that's not a good sign. Sometimes they'll stay up just long enough for the kids to fall asleep first, then head to bed for fun.
If it's early in the evening and a couple are heading to the bathroom to brush their teeth, they've probably decided to head to bed early together. That's usually a good sign.
Get used to walking in campgrounds in the dark. I usually just have my flashlight on very occasionally, just if I get disoriented along the roadway. Slow down your walk. Campgrounds are usually along loops, go the long-way sometimes. If you have to make excuses with family or friends, I frequently don't like the bathrooms near my loop and walk to further ones that "are better". Learn to read..er... buy yourself a book and booklight. Sit up late at night around your campfire and read. The later it is, the quieter the campground. You'd be surprised how far sound travels when the air is still out in the middle of nowhere. If you like astronomy, quiet time with your telescope is great too.
I have to admit that my best sucess has been from just walking around the campground late at night; but the fact that my campsite usually has a lot of people staying up late and talking has a lot to do with that.
In magazines, I've seen those small devices to magnify sounds. Has anyone used them in a campground? I'm referring to those small ones that are made to look like little radios, not the big parabollic mirror things.
Here in the N. Central U.S. there are numerous summer festiv which include camping. Some of these festivals are somewhat "hippie" in orientation, with the usual smoke and wine... young 20-somethings are there to party and specifically to make love. Seems even people born in the 1980's want the "summer of love" experience of 1967!
A solo male camper is not suspicious at these gatherings, but in the current paranoid climate about sex crimes here in the U.S., a single man walking around a campground at 2:00 in the morning would likely be detained by police, just because...
As far as those little amplifier boxes you asked about. These were made to help partially deaf people hear the telly more clearly, and are unsuitable for outdoor listening. I prefer shotgun microphones over parabolic dishes. A friend of mine who is an amateur astronomer has one mounted to one of his telescope gtripods. Ignorant bystanders presume it is a long video lens or something, and recently even the park police didn't question its purpose. In fact, my buddy is trying to capture some of the same noises we are...although his interests are more about the animal kingdom. Strange boy.
Any festival or gathering with a hippie, Pagan or New Age focus will of course yield more sex sounds. I wouldn't advise trying to record a Pagan fertility ritual however; those folks sort of like their privacy. LOL
Just to clear up about 'those little boxes'... I own one (I had to scour the internet for them a few years ago... now they can be found at Radio Shack for 19.95).... they actually are not bad little devices. I have paired mine up with both a shotgun mic and the little cardiod mics.. and it works like a champ! I would HIGHLY recommend them... just for the price alone. Be sure to get the model with 'audio-in, audio-out', attach your microphone of choice to one end, and your recording or listening device to the other. Although.. I am a bit of a gadget-hound...and have the believe you can never have enough tools in your toolbox...lol
You've got me thinking now, El... I'm going to have to plan some fun on this summer's trips.
When I was a kid, a neighbor kid had put together a shotgun type of microphone that was phenominal. It was amazing the device he had put together. What it picked up at distances was phenominal. We'd hear conversations so far off, we'd have no idea where we were picking it up from. And that was from inside his parents house, with the mic pointing towards the open window.
Any ideas on how to hide this little device in a campground?
El Ciego wrote:Rog,
Great advice about campgrounds!
Here in the N. Central U.S. there are numerous summer festiv which include camping. Some of these festivals are somewhat "hippie" in orientation, with the usual smoke and wine... young 20-somethings are there to party and specifically to make love. Seems even people born in the 1980's want the "summer of love" experience of 1967!
A solo male camper is not suspicious at these gatherings, but in the current paranoid climate about sex crimes here in the U.S., a single man walking around a campground at 2:00 in the morning would likely be detained by police, just because...
As far as those little amplifier boxes you asked about. These were made to help partially deaf people hear the telly more clearly, and are unsuitable for outdoor listening. I prefer shotgun microphones over parabolic dishes. A frined of mine who is an amateur astronomer has one mounted to one of his teescope gtripods. Ignorant bystanders presume it is a long video lens or something, and recently even the park police didn't question its purpose. In fact, my buddy is trying to capture some of the same noises we are...although his interests are more about the animal kingdom. Strange boy.
Any festival or gathering with a hippie, Pagan or New Age focus will of course yield more sex sounds. I wouldn't advise trying to record a Pagan fertility ritual however; those folks sort of like their privacy. LOL
Mark, what is the name/brand of that "little box" from Radio Shack? For 19.95, I wouldn't mind picking one up and experimenting with it's capabilities.
yeppie wrote:having some kind of hotel manager in this group would be great!
Exclamation i was thinking of buying a hotel lately. would install a baby monitoring system in all of the rooms which has a central on/off switch in some sort of control room. this could be a great service for guests, don´t you think so?
all i have to do before making this plan come true is win the lottery Crying or Very sad
I'm new to this site (excellent site by the way),but not new to audio voyeurism. Concerning baby monitors, if you have a radio scanner you can tune into the frequencies used by any baby monitor whithin 500 metres radius. I have one, there are 4 couples near me who I listen in on & 2 of them leave them running when they have sex. I can't record them but it makes interesting listening,
Hey groundskeeper - good to see another new member posting!
Well as you're not new to our hobby, you'll appreciate how chances like yours with that scanner can be thin on the ground. So, on behalf of all of us, I beg you to start recording those couples and posting them up! If you need advice about the best way to do it, then feel free to ask. Nowadays it won't cost you hardly anything either.
groundskeeper wrote:I'm new to this site (excellent site by the way),but not new to audio voyeurism. Concerning baby monitors, if you have a radio scanner you can tune into the frequencies used by any baby monitor whithin 500 metres radius. I have one, there are 4 couples near me who I listen in on & 2 of them leave them running when they have sex. I can't record them but it makes interesting listening,
Welcome to the community groundkeeper!
Please start recording the baby monitor sounds - as sc0tt said, you will get any help you need to begin.
I bought a fairly good scanner for exactly that reason some time ago but haven´t been lucky until today.
yeppie
Yeppe, are you saying the baby monitor thing works. When I first read it, I was thinking, the broadcasting part is in the baby's room. Just the receiver is in the parent's room. Are you capturing baby sounds or sex sounds?
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you... as most know I have been on the 'high seas' for the past year. I am on holiday for a few weeks.. then start my big move over to the middle east. Anywho.. here is a link to the box I have:
[quote="yeppie"]haigha, what do you mean "being there"? did you go into the buildings, listening at the doors of the apartments? and why [quote]In a city, I wouldn't try anything outside some safety zone![/quote]?
call me dumb, but i´m not sure if i got your point. Question[/quote]
Shit, a year later, and I'm only now getting back to you! Embarassed
Anyway, by 'being there' I mean I actually went into no-security apartment buildings and listened at doors (making tapes under the front-door cracks was a piece of cake!), as well as doing the usual voyeur window peeping and getting some GREAT sound experiences (one time, I was RIGHT on the other side of a screen window where a hot coed was getting nailed...watched and heard --and recorded -- the whole thing just inches away! Twisted Evil ).
As for a 'safety zone' in a city, I just mean REALLY know where you are, how to get out of it and what you can get away with. Don't just walk into some random building and start poking around.
If we are talking motel/hotel locations (probobaly true elsewhere but I have yet to check) I am noticing a higher level of activitating on Friday evenings against the obvious saturday. Thats not to say saturday isnt worth a go but friday is certainly tops. My theory is that many people socialise Saturdays and are a) up later and b) drunk; they might further have played on Friday so why again on saturday.
It pays to know your location. Once you have found a target place stick with it. I have two favourite spots both have several things in common namely:-
1) They are cheaper so appeal to the younger and perhaps more active set.
2) The corridors link (ie there is a circuit). This is preferable to deadend corridors for obvious reasons.
3) The reception area is easy to monitor. It really pays to spot your targets and then track them to know what room they are staying in - its easy to work out who is staying at the hotel for something more than dinner. Apart from th e usual telltale signs (like holding hands/kissing/laughing/missing wedding rings) its worth keeping an eye out for those who talk (lots of talk is not common with well established couples), politensee on the mans part and when they check in does she stand back a llittle!. Also dont understimate the power of sneezing especially outside high pollen periods. Sneezing is a clue to hightened stimulation.
I have routinely found myself with a list of target rooms and from simple monitoring work out when 'bedtime calls' - I ave more success as a result of homework at reception than just corridor cruising.
4) This walls/doors a must (goes with cheep)
5) Watch out for the arrived and straight to bed group - in a decent size hotel this often happens from 5 to 7pm
and have accidentally miked up the wrong tent; how could you possibly have known that the occupants were going to have noisy sex that night (thus turning an 'innocent' recording into an 'indecent' one)?
